Friday, January 26, 2007

Woolsey: Yes, the "Palestinians" are NOT entitled to any state

Ex-CIA Director: PA Arabs Don't Deserve State
Wednesday, January 24, 2007 / 5 Shevat 5767

James Woolsey, former Director of the CIA, told IsraelNationalRadio's Alex
Traiman that a Palestinian state should wait "many decades" until they
stop teaching their children to hate and murder.

Traiman asked about Woolsey's choice of terminology in calling the present
conflict between the West and Islam as World War Four.

Woolsey explained that shortly after 9/11, "I saw an op-ed in the Wall
Street Journal by Eliot Cohen of Johns Hopkins University where he wrote
that the Cold War was World War III, and that the war against what I call
Islamist totalitarianism is World War IV... We have a situation where
democracies in the west such as Israel and the US, and Japan and others
too, are at war with a group of Islamist totalitarianism ideologies and
movements - very loosely analogous to the movements of the 20s and 30s -
Fascism, Nazism, Communism, and Japanese imperialism..."

Woolsey said that it could take the West "decades to win this war; the
Cold War took us four decades to win, and I see no reason to expect this
one to be less than that."

Traiman asked, "Iran is actively working on a nuclear bomb and calls for
Israel's destruction. How long can Israel afford to wait before taking
action? And how long can the US afford to wait?"

Woolsey did not offer a direct answer, but rather some background:
"We can only hope that the Israeli and American governments have a better
handle on the precise details of the Iranian nuclear program... The
Persians [precursors of today's Iranians -ed.] invented chess, and they
are playing it well. Hamas and Hizbullah and other groups are their pawns,
and the Syrian government is a rook, and their most precious piece - their
queen - is their nuclear weapons program. They are moving the pieces
around quite cleverly, this week using Hizbullah to overthrow the
government of Lebanon; next week it may be something else. They are moving
their pieces with skill, and they're a very serious adversary."

PA State - Not in the Coming Decades
Asked his opinion on the establishment of a Palestinian state, the former
CIA director recommended that it not happen in the coming decades. He said
that though the Jewish presence in this region precedes the Moslem claim -
"for some Muslims like Arafat to deny that Jews were ever present here is
idiotic" - the Moslems also have national rights in the area.

Openly avoiding the question of the nature or borders of a Palestinian
state, he emphasized his opinion that "the Palestinians should not be
granted the right to statehood until they start to treat Israeli Jews who
settle in the West Bank as fairly as Israel treats its Muslim citizens."

"An Arab Muslim living in Jaffa," Woolsey said, "enjoys freedom of speech,
religion, and expression, and can vote for his representatives in the
Knesset, and doesn't go to sleep worrying that some government element
might come and kill him. I think that once the Palestinians start treating
Jewish settlers with that same degree of humanity - and they're very, very
far from doing that now - at that point I think we have to seriously
consider how they could have some degree of self-governing. I won't get
into the question of borders, but what I think is that the Palestinians
must be held to the same standards as Israel regarding how they treat the
other. I am sure this will be many decades from now, though, because their
children are taught the Wahhabi doctrine of being suicide bombers and the

Disengagement Was a Mistake
Traiman: "There are continuous calls for American troop withdrawals from
Iraq; the unilateral withdrawal idea is back on the table here in Israel;
and talks with Syria are again being pushed. Why are we playing the
appeasement card?"

Woolsey: "Appeasement isn't called playing a card - it's just folding. I
think those steps that you just mentioned are most unwise. Talking to
Syria and negotiating should be done only when one has leverage...
Unilateral withdrawal from the West Bank would not be a wise step for
Israel to take; when one sees what happened in Gaza, and sees the
political advantage that Hamas has taken of the situation to claim
unilateral victory and now to be part of the PA government - how many
failures do you need before you recognize that it's a failure?"

Woolsey said that this past summer's war between Israel and Hizbullah was
a lost opportunity for the United States and Israel to jointly decide on
Syrian targets to be attacked. This type of mistake must not be repeated,
he said:
"We ought to make sure that if there is another legitimate and reasonable
occasion for us to use force in this part of the world against Syria or
Iran, we must not waste it. We should move towards encouraging peaceful
regime change there; but if we are absolutely forced to use force against
Iran, for instance, in order to stop its nuclear program, that should not
be the limit of our use of force - it ought to be used also to break the
power of the terrible Iranian regime and give the people of Iran a chance
to live under a better one."

Asked his opinion on Jonathan Pollard, Woolsey said that though he has
favored a significant punishment for Pollard in the past, "now that he has
served [over] 20 years in prison, my view is that 20 years is enough. I
also think that the close relationship between the US and Israel is also
of some consideration, and at this point I think he's served long enough.
I won't go any further than that."

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5. My Problem with Jimmy Carter's Book
by Kenneth W. Stein
Middle East Quarterly
Spring 2007

6. Jimmy Carter: Too many Jews on Holocaust council
Former president also rejected Christian historian because name sounded
'too Jewish'
Posted: January 25, 2007
11:07 p.m. Eastern
By Aaron Klein - 2007

Monroe Freedman
TEL AVIV . Former President Jimmy Carter once complained there were "too
many Jews" on the government's Holocaust Memorial Council, Monroe
Freedman, the council's former executive director, told WND in an
exclusive interview.

Freedman, who served on the council during Carter's term as president,
also revealed a noted Holocaust scholar who was a Presbyterian Christian
was rejected from the council's board by Carter's office because the
scholar's name "sounded too Jewish."

Freedman, now a professor of law at Hofstra University, was picked by the
council's chairman, author Elie Weisel, to serve as executive director in
1980. The council, created by the Carter White House, went on to establish
the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C.

Freedman says he was tasked with creating a board for the council and with
making recommendations to the White House on how best to memorialize the

He told WND he sent a memo to Carter's office containing recommendations
for council board members.

He said his memo was returned with a note on the upper right hand corner
that stated, "Too many Jews."

The note, Freedman said, was written in Carter's handwriting and was
initialed by Carter.

Freedman said at the time the board he constructed was about 80-perent
Jewish, including many Holocaust survivors.

He said at the behest of the White House he composed another board
consisting of more non-Jews. But he said he was "stunned" when Carter's
office objected to a non-Jew whose name sounded Jewish.

Freedman said he could not provide the historians name to WND because he
did not have the man's permission.

"I got a phone call from our liaison at the White House saying this
particular historian whose name sounded Jewish would not do. The liaison
said he would not even take the time to present Carter with the
possibility of including the historian on the board because he knew Carter
would think the name sounded too Jewish. I explained the historian is
Presbyterian, but the liaison said it wouldn't matter to Carter."

Freedman said he was "outraged by this absurdity."

"If I was memorializing Martin Luther King, I would expect a significant
number of board members to be African American. If I was memorializing
Native American figures I'd expect a lot of Native Americans to be on the

"I do not for a moment consider it inappropriate to build a Holocaust
council with a significant majority of the board being Jewish," Freedman

Freedman describes himself as "self-proclaimed liberal." He said he
decided to speak out after the release of Carter's latest book,
"Palestine: Peace not Apartheid," which some have accused of being biased
against Israel.

This would not be the first time Carter's messages on right hand corners
of letters generated a Holocaust-related scandal.

Last week, in an interview with the Tovia Singer Show on Israel National
Radio, a former U.S. Justice Department official said he received a letter
advocating "special consideration" for a confessed Nazi SS officer accused
of murdering Jews in the Mauthausen death camp in Austria.

Neal Sher, who served in the Justice Department's Office of Special
Investigation, said that in 1987 he received a note from Carter
petitioning for re-entry into the U.S. for Martin Bartesch, who had been
deported by Sher's office to Austria after it was established he served as
an SS officer.

Sher said his office had "extraordinary evidence" Bartesch shot Jews.

Bartesch originally immigrated to the U.S. and lived in Chicago. He later
admitted to Sher's office and the court he had voluntarily joined the SS
as a teenager and served in its Death's Head Division at the Mauthausen
concentration camp where many thousands of prisoners were gassed, shot,
starved and worked to death. Bartesch also confessed to having concealed
his SS service at concentration camp from U.S. immigration officials.

Sher said the Justice Department obtained a journal kept by the SS and
captured by the U.S. Armed Forces listing Bartesch as having shot to death
Max Oschorn, a French Jewish prisoner.

Bartesch's daughters, who still lived in the U.S., attempted in 1987 to
appeal to politicians to allow the former Nazi officer to enter the
country. They wrote a note in which they claimed it was "un-American" to
persecute a man for crimes committed when he was only 17 and 18 years old.

Sher said he was shocked when he received the daughter's letter replete
with a handwritten note from Carter on the upper right corner stating the
former president wanted "special consideration" for the Bartesch family
for humanitarian reasons.

The note, containing Carter's signature, was obtained this week by the NY

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